How much capital will I need to start day trading for a living?” This is a very common question that we often receive and it is somewhat difficult to answer. That is because each individual is different and has a different set of goals. Each person’s standard of living could be different and what one individual makes with day trading for a living may not be enough for another. The more money you want or need to make will depend on the amount of capital that you have at risk.
Swing Trade for Percentage, Day Trade for Dollars
The answer is that it is different for each person and it is something you must consider for yourself before you start. We can only give some practical guidelines. I personally feel that you should have enough trading capital to purchase between 500 to 1000 shares of any given stock without having to use margin. When we take a swing trade position at StockTradersHQ, we look for gains in terms of percentage points. However, when I day trade, I am looking for dollars to take out of the market that day. I need a dollar figure because this is my salary for my work. It’s how I make my living so I want to make a certain amount of dollars when I day trade.
The price of the stock I am day trading is critical because I normally buy either 500 or 1000 shares, depending on the price of the stock. Ideally, my target when I take a day trade position is a $1.00 move on the stock. I will let the stock run much more than that if I see the momentum is going to carry it up further. I have had stocks move up 2, 3, 4 dollars or more in a single day trade. If I get the move, I will run a trailing stop behind the price to lock in the profit should the stock reverse and fall back. I use the trailing stop because I want to take advantage of any more upside movement the stock might have the rest of the session. If I were to just sell at the $1.00 target, I am really robbing myself of possible further upside in the stock and limiting my potential profit. Remember, when you are trading 1000 shares at a time, you only need a small move in the stock for a worthwhile profit.
Keep Expectations Realistic
If you trade stocks in the $30 to $60 range, this could mean that you need a minimum of $30,000 to start. 1000 shares of a $30 stock or 500 shares of a $60 stock and so on. This of course would be 100% of your capital in any one position, which is very dangerous. If you want to trade 2 or 3 positions at a time, you would need $60K to $90K to start, assuming that you trade the 500 to 1000 share blocks in this $30 - $60 price range and you do not use your margin.
If you are using margin, then you could buy more shares or pick higher priced stocks. If your day trading account balance was say $120,000, you could buy 2000 shares of a $20 stock and still have $80,000 left to put to work in 2 or 3 more trades. For example, if you had bought 2000 shares of SOLF on Friday (May 16th) at the opening price of $19.00 and sold at the close, you would have had a one day profit of $7,680. It closed at $22.84 for a $3.84 gain on your trade. $3.84 X 2000 = $7,680. This is just one example and it is not that far fetched to think that you can’t catch these moves because every day there are stocks moving up and there is always a big mover in the market somewhere. We just happened to have had SOLF on our trade Bulletin and in the pre-market update as a stock to watch for a possible day trade.
In this example, we used 2000 shares but you do not need to trade that many shares. Trade what you feel is in your comfort level. Keep in mind, with lesser shares traded, you will need bigger daily moves in the stocks to make a decent living and there are times when stocks just do not move more than $1.00 in a day, especially when the market is suffering from a flat day. Just remember, if you are starting small, keep your expectations realistic. Certainly, someone trading with $30,000 to $50,000 is going to have a much more difficult time generating $1,000 per day than someone using $100,000 or more. Know your limitations with respect to your capital. Keep things in perspective and try not to expect miracles.
In the Big Leagues
When you get into the bigger leagues of day trading, you can then take on (purchase or short) a block or two of a stock, generally defined as 10,000 shares. You can trade 10K shares of a $5.00 stock for only a 10 cent move and you will have profited $1,000 in that trade. Examples of these types of stocks are CPST ($3.48) had a .15 range on Friday and FINL ($6.77) had a .30 range on Friday. You won’t capture the whole move but you can see the potential if you get a decent entry. Remember; never put all your capital in one trade. Only use 25% to 33% of your available day trading capital in each trade.
This is going to require $150,000 to $200,000 or more of trading capital plus some use of margin in limited situations and for a limited time. When you reach this level, it is easy to see how day trading can become quite profitable but also quite risky. A move of a few pennies across 10,000 shares can return quite a bit of money, quite rapidly if you scalp 3 or 4 trades a day in the stock. Just remember it goes both ways; you can quickly lose quite a bit as well. There is no right or wrong answer with regard to how much you need to start. Simply keep your objectives in perspective and be realistic based on the capital in play.
David Colletti
Founder
StockTradersHQ.com
The Headquarters for Serious Stock Traders
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